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The ending of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows was awful!

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oLahav
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oLahav said:

Spoilers warning if you haven’t read it yet.

Harry dies and comes back to life? What was that about? A small piece of Voldemort inside of him, or something? That was just awful.

I didn’t appreciate the Christ imagery either, I didn’t see it at all like a Christ-sort of story until that moment, when everything took a turn for the worse in my opinion.

Besides, the entire “happy ever after” deal just didn’t fit with the atmosphere of the last couple of books. Book 5- Sirius dies, book 6-Dambeldore dies. Book 7- everybody’s happy. I think the problem was that Roling was trying to please too many people without thinking on what’s best for the book.

What do you think?

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Malgosia
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Malgosia agreed:

I tend to agree here. I didn’t like the ending very much. A tad too melodramatic.

Perhaps the Christ piece was to appease all of the conservative Christian groups who tried to stop children from reading Harry Potter because of the witchcraft?

Then again, she sort of lost that group when she revealed Dumbledore was gay. (Something else that just doesn’t fit into the story.)

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lechuck
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lechuck disagreed:

Spoils, and lots of them:

Wasn’t the last 200 pages the “ending”?

It stretched on, and on, and on and on. But it found it to be pretty entertaining with the fight at Hogwarts, Voldemort killing Snape, and the best part was when Neville killed the snake. It was all very entertaining and although the hyped up “Christian/Jesus” stuff didn’t really come to mind when Harry Potter “died” and came back to life. I normally don’t pick up on those kinda things and think I’m better for it ;)

I was pretty glued to the book.

What really ruined the ending for me was the final chapter of the book when they were all grown up and they had a butt load of kids that were going to Hogwarts. I really didn’t care about that. What I cared about was the aftermath of the battle at Hogwarts, what happened to everyone afterwards, and mostly a little closure for that timeline. It could have put to rest a lot of things readers really wanted to know about, not what Harry named his kids. Who cares?

All in all I’ll have to disagree, it wasn’t awful. Your right to say some of it was pretty bad though.

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Peter Blomert
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Peter Blomert disagreed:

@Oren: I agree with Adam – I was really content with the overall ending of the Harry Potter series. The book would be even better without the last part with the grown up Potters – as it is my belief that a writer should write til the end of a novel but then stop immediately ;-)

I really was impressed by the dying and surviving of Harry Potter. – For me this has nothing to do with Christianity, it was simply a very logical construction over all the seven books, very deep and without a flaw – that’s what impressed me. I now believe Rowlings telling she wrote the end first.

@Malgosia: I wouldn’t mind Dumbledore being gay, but I can’t read that in the book. Dumbledores friendship with Grindelwald shows all signs of the connection of two boys with extraordinary minds, bound together by thirst for knowledge, young ambition and juvenile arrogance – but I cant find any explicit homosexual annotations.

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oLahav
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oLahav agreed:

I have a few more points.

First of all, you’re right about the tiny future chapter at the end, that just completely destroyed it for me. She should have left more room for our own thoughts and imagination as an author.

And I don’t have a problem with Dambeldore being gay, neither do I think it adds much to either the character or the plot based upon the books.

Back to the ending though, ok, maybe it wasn’t perfectly awful, the battle scenes were cool, I agree with Adam on that. I still thought overall, it would’ve been a thousand times cooler if Voldemort would have killed Harry for real. Harry killing Voldy was just too predictable. But then, so was Dambledore’s death in my opinion, but that didn’t take much off when it actually happened since I didn’t see Snape doing it.

I’m just not a huge fan of happy endings where everybody’s happy ever after like the whole thing didn’t even mater.

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lechuck
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lechuck disagreed:

All the pain, suffering, sacrifice finally had a means when Voldemort was killed. Lupin’s, Tonk’s, George’s (I think), Sirius’s, Dumbledore’s death all had a meaning. I don’t think they were happy immediately after the battle was done. They had at least, something, to celebrate.

If Voldemort DID kill Harry Potter, that would in fact be the end of the book as it was written from his point of view. You couldn’t switch point of view afterwards. I would be more upset over that ending, then the current one.

I was willing to put money on Ron dying in this book and was surprised none of the three did kick the bucket. I figured after all the build up between Ron and Hermonie that she would kill one of them off.

Remember, this is a children’s book. 10 year olds are fans of Harry Potter. I think she’d lose a lot more fans if they killed of Harry Potter than if she reviled Dumbledore is gay. Which, really means nothing other than a nice little shocker for the news feeds. Plus, it’s far to often as of late that the main protagonist dies. It happens a lot and I am glad it didn’t happen this time. We probably have a lot more mini-stories or books to look forward to from the author.

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oLahav
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oLahav agreed:

Ok Adam, you do have a point… But regarding the point of view thing, there were instances in the book without Harry there, so it could’ve been done. Other than that I take your response.

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Malgosia
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@Oren: I agree with Adam – I was really content with the overall ending of the Harry Potter series. The book would be even better without the last part with the grown up Potters – as it is my belief that a writer should write til the end of a novel but then stop immediately ;-)

I really was impressed by the dying and surviving of Harry Potter. – For me this has nothing to do with Christianity, it was simply a very logical construction over all the seven books, very deep and without a flaw – that’s what impressed me. I now believe Rowlings telling she wrote the end first.

@Malgosia: I wouldn’t mind Dumbledore being gay, but I can’t read that in the book. Dumbledores friendship with Grindelwald shows all signs of the connection of two boys with extraordinary minds, bound together by thirst for knowledge, young ambition and juvenile arrogance – but I cant find any explicit homosexual annotations.

I have no problem with Dumbledore being gay – I just thought throwing that out after the fact, where it had no real relation to the story, was sort of pointless. Still, nothing to do with the actual book and its ending.

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lechuck
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oLahav
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Ok Adam, you do have a point… But regarding the point of view thing, there were instances in the book without Harry there, so it could’ve been done. Other than that I take your response.

Weren’t all those times still in Harry’s head and through the point of view of Nagini (the snake) or Voldemort himself? Or of course the Pensive. Maybe I’m wrong.

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Peter Blomert
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@Oren: As I said, I cant see any hint in the book that Dumbledore was gay…

To the ending: I don’t know if I remember correctly (it is some time ago I read the book) wasn’t it that Harry didn’t kill Voldemort, but Voldemort did so himself?

I agree with you in that point that normally happy endings are boring and often diminuishing the preceding story – but it wasn’t that way in this book (only my opinion).

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Peter Blomert
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Weren’t all those times still in Harry’s head and through the point of view of Nagini (the snake) or Voldemort himself? Or of course the Pensive. Maybe I’m wrong.

There are parts of the books not written in Harrys perspective, e.g. the meeting of Snape with the two sisters, so Oren may have a point here.

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lechuck
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There are parts of the books not written in Harrys perspective, e.g. the meeting of Snape with the two sisters, so Oren may have a point here.

Actually that is. It’s Harry watching the Pensive of Snape’s memory. Harry is in fact standing in the scene watching the memory transpire.

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Peter Blomert
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Actually that is. It’s Harry watching the Pensive of Snape’s memory. Harry is in fact standing in the scene watching the memory transpire.

Sorry, Adam, that is a misunderstanding, I wasn’t thinking of the meeting of Snape with the Potter-sisters, that is indeed a memory out of the pensieve, i was thinking about the meeting of Snape with Narcissa and her sister when he vows to help her son.

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lechuck
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Sorry, Adam, that is a misunderstanding, I wasn’t thinking of the meeting of Snape with the Potter-sisters, that is indeed a memory out of the pensieve, i was thinking about the meeting of Snape with Narcissa and her sister when he vows to help her son.

Ah your right! That was a pretty rare case… if not the only time that ever happened. I still have to say killing off Harry Potter would have to end the book. I couldn’t see it being from any other perspective aside from MAYBE Voldemort’s.

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